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Islam Archive: What You Think You Know

I discovered Islam Archive through one of my Google Alerts which tipped me off to a post containing “ban Islam” .  Then I discovered a target rich thread too good to pass up. What follows are out of context quotes with my commentary interspersed.
Islam Archive

I studied religion and theology. I have many friends who are of various religions, whom I met in college and grad school.

What did you study, Paman, was it form or substance? Did you read and analyze the Qur’an & hadith?

Where do you uneducated people get the idea that Muslim religion is any harsher that a practicing religous Christian, Jew, or Morman?

From Islamic doctrine & practice. From seeing photos of Queers hung from construction cranes. From seeing photos of women stoned to death in Iran, lashed and shot in Saudi Arabia.  Are Jews & Christians performing such Barbarian acts in the name of their religion?

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Read This and Curse

Damnation be upon the corrupt cretins who set this SandMaggot free! No terrorist should ever be incarcerated and released; all should be ushered into Hell.

The article details the evil activities of a terrorist who planted three bombs in N.Y.C.; how long and difficult was the effort to capture him, and the other bombs he planted. Now he is about to be released after serving half his sentence. There is no doubt that he will resume making and planting bombs.

I am disgusted. I am about to express my disgust to President Obama, my Representative & Senators.  I urge you to go to the web site of and follow suit. Once is enough!!!


Fact Bomb

Dropping the Fact Bomb

The following items are my most recent posts on page 4 of the

Palestine-Arab state created in 1923

thread in the War & Peace folder  of Compuserve's Political Debate Forum.   That thread conssists mainly of dancing around the facts, focused on irrelevant minutia while avoiding the central truths which define the problem domain.

It is my habit to drop the Fact Bomb upon the dance of idiocy.

What should the Jews have done in 638?  You know as well as I do that the whole damn deal stems from Umar's conquest.  Why play semantic games and set traps?

What should the Jews have done  when the Muslims staged their genocidal invasion in 1948?

What should the Jews have done when the Muslims staged their genocidal invasion in 1967?

Its all so blessed obvious that there is no need to question it.  Israel has two choices:

  1. usher the Muslims into Hellfire

  2. suffer continuous torment until they are finally exterminated by the Muslims.

And your choice is?  Mine is the first choice, the one Israel lacks the resolve and courage to take.

Exactly what is the legal, moral, logical & historical basis for the existence of a Falestinian state?

Exactly when did the Falestinians have a state with Jerusalem as its capitol? What was the name of that state? Who was its ruler? What was the difference between it and run of the mill Arabian culture?

The defeat of the Ottoman Empire presented an opportunity for a clean slate; for reversing Caliph Umar's conquest. Exactly why should that not be done?

Why don't you point out the cognitive dissonance evident on the face of his 3 year proposal, which, despite his call for rationality instead of wishful thinking, is entirely based on wishful thinking?

Islam will never tolerate the existence of an Israeli state in the Levant. Israel's existence is proof that Allah is an impotent idol.  Islam's thin skinned sensitivity and pride can't bear that.

Israel will always be attacked by Muslims until she ushers them into Hell. That is the fact, everyone knows it but almost no one will admit it.

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The Reliance of the Traveller. Version 1.06 - By Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri
BOOK O: JUSTICE >> Chapter O-9.0: Jihad

O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"
this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).

The source of that quote is  a search of Reliance of the Traveler at Muhaddith.  It can be found in a plain text version located here.  That is Sharia, Islamic law. Search for Reliance of the Traveler with your favorite search engine. See how it is described by Islamic book stores.

If that ain't authentic Islamic law, then how do you explain what Al-Shafi'i & Al-Ghazali said about making annual military expeditions against Kufar?

Honesty may not generate popularity, but it remains the best policy.  Get the facts out on the table and rub everyone's snouts in them it until they see  & recognize them.

"But it doesn't say that... doesn't mean that... ain't interpreted that way... " . But you can't explain away the matching pattern formed by :

  1. Qur'an

  2. Sunnah

  3. Tafsir

  4. Sirah

  5. Fiqh

  6. a path of conquest extending from Vienna to the border of China.

The unwillingness & inability of the self-appointed intellectuals to recognize truth does not alter its status as truth.  No amount of proof  will ever be enough.  But, because it is possible that some rational and open minded person might by some accident fall upon these posts, it is good to establish a record of the facts.

Umar's conquest of the Province of Syria and the Arab invasions of 1948, 1967 & 1973 are part of a congruent pattern of aggression invisible to the willfully blind.
Abu Dawud 14.2477
Narrated Ibn Hawalah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: It will turn out that you will be armed troops, one is Syria, one in the Yemen and one in Iraq. Ibn Hawalah said: Choose for me, Apostle of Allah, if I reach that time. He replied: Go to Syria, for it is Allah's chosen land, to which his best servants will be gathered but if you are unwilling, go to your Yemen, and draw water from your tanks, for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people.

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 386:
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
'Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans.[...]
Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:-- "Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master."  [...]

According to Ibn Hawalah's narration, Moe predicted the invasions of Yemen & Syria, and declared a preference: that Syria take priority: Go to Syria, for it is Allah's chosen land, to which his best servants will be gathered...for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people.

What did Caliph Umar do and why? for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people. Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya.

    While Jubair bin Haiya's narration relates directly to the invasion of Persia,  the referenced command applies to "people of the book", which  includes Jews. It is quoted in the Fiqh cited in the post which follows the one to which you responded.

In view of the clear command, which forms the basis of a significant legal ruling, confirmed by Moe's own statements and the statement made to the Persian general and in view of Moe's statement that Jihad would be performed continuously and that the end could not come until they hunt down the last Jew, your expectation that Muslims will negotiate peace in good faith is extremely irrational.

Another poster previously alluded to the treaty of Hudaibiya,whose ten year term was violated by Moe after three years. See 9:1--3.

Sahih Muslim Book 015, Number 4052:

[...]whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) said: He who took an oath and (later on) found something better than that should do that, and expiate for (breaking) his vow.[...]

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 361:

[...]and by Allah, Allah willing, if ever I take an oath to do something, and later on I find that it is more beneficial to do something different, I will do the thing which is better, and give expiation for  my oath."[...]

How, in view of those ahadith, can any rational person accept a Muslim's obligation in any matter of substance?  Expecting Islam to make peace in good faith is a token of the most extreme stupidity & irrationality.

In the course of those forum posts I furnished links which give the reader access to Hilali & Khan's translation of the Qur'an,  the hadith collections of Bukhari & Muslim and Reliance of the Traveler, the most recognized handbook of Fiqh.  Here are links to Ibn Kathir's Tafsir (with search engine) and Moe's biography.  You can read the many extortion letters he sent out here.

How does one use that information?  Its easy!  And I show you how with copious examples from my own blog and forum posts. The Forum Wars and Forum Wars II (search for the title or keep scrolling) posts contain many block quotes from the primary sources, each hyperlinked to source. If you select and copy those quotes and paste them into any html friendly wysiwyg editor  the links will be preserved. That is what I did with the samples in this post; I am composing this with Nvu.  If your forum uses BB code, you can use Nvu to extract the URL  from each link  and do the editing in the forum.

If you want to have your own electronic library for off line work, you can download  the Qur'an, Hadith & Tafsir from Crusader's Armory, look for the New Library section which also includes EgregiousAyat.chm, with the most egregious quotes, with links to relevant tafsir topics. It is what I use for most of my forum and blog posts.