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Dec032010

Army, Marine chiefs cast doubt on gay service

Don't ask and don't tell.  This is a debacle second to none.  There are homosexuals in the military and they are more than likely doing just fine.  However, one must look at the combative response to the military man or woman.  I served in the US Military for a very long time and I, like about 80% of the others, didn't want to be in a foxhole with some crank watching my ass.  Repealing this DADT fiasco will squash the military combative response of those that are fighting to keep you safe, warm and fuzzy under your blankets at night.

If there is one thing no military man or woamn wants to see or hear is some crank that cannot procreate hitting up on you at every given moment.  Homosexuality is not normal activity.  Homosexuals cannot have children unless they "hire it out".  Two men living with each other cannot have children, period, and that is not normal.  Having openly "gay" men in the military in the combat field, to me, is an atrocious act and cannot be tolerated.  The same goes anywhere in our society.

One can be a homosexual if they so please but forcing themselves onto everyone else is unforgivable.  Let the normal people think things out and that is in fact normal.  As soon as the rest of the Nation is homosexual, then they can dictate.  Until then?  Shut up and stay non-normal.

WASHINGTON (AP) - The top uniformed officers of the Army and the Marines say letting gays serve openly in the military at a time of war would be divisive and difficult, sharply challenging a new Pentagon study that calculates the risk as low.

Their assessment, expected Friday at a Senate hearing, was likely to become political ammunition for Arizona Sen. John McCain and other Republicans fighting to keep Congress from repealing the 1993 law that prohibits gays from acknowledging their sexual orientation. Democrats have promised a vote this month to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" law, although its chances of passing this year were considered dim.

"If the law is changed, successfully implementing repeal and assimilating openly homosexual Marines into the tightly woven fabric of our combat units has strong potential for disruption at the small unit level, as it will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat," the Marine commandant, Gen. James Amos, said in remarks prepared for delivery to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Testimony from Amos and the other service chiefs was obtained in advance by The Associated Press.

President Barack Obama has called on Congress to overturn the ban on openly gay service. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed and ordered a 10-month study looking at the attitudes of service members toward gay troops.

Released earlier this week, the study found that about 30 percent of troops predicted problems would occur if "don't ask, don't tell" were repealed.

Most of the troops with concerns were serving in combat roles. Nearly 60 percent of troops in the Marine Corps and in Army combat units, such as infantry and special operations, said they thought allowing gays to be open about their sexual orientation would hurt their units' ability to fight on the battlefield.

"I cannot reconcile, nor turn my back, on the negative perceptions held by our Marines who are most engaged in the hard work of day-to-day operations in Afghanistan," Amos said.

His assessment was generally backed by the Army chief of staff, Gen. George Casey, who led the Iraq war under President George W. Bush. Casey said the policy shift, if implemented properly, wouldn't keep the Army from doing its job, and he predicted repeal would pose only a moderate risk to his force.

But, he added, changing the law now would "add another level of stress to any already stretched force" and be more difficult on the Army, particularly its combat units, than the recent Pentagon study suggests.

Gates and Mullen have said they believe resistance can be addressed through training and education. They also cite experience with gay troops as a mitigating factor.

According to the study, 84 percent of Marines in combat roles who find they're working with a gay comrade said they did not see any negative impact on unit morale or cohesion.

"In terms of actual disruption experienced, as opposed to predicted disruption, the distinction between combat arms communities and the force as a whole is negligible," said Marine Gen. James Cartwright, the No. 2 officer on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The Air Force and Navy chiefs were expected to offer considerably milder assessments of repeal than their Army and Marine counterparts. According to the study, some 70 percent of airmen and sailors predict few problems with lifting the ban.

The chief of naval operations, Adm. Gary Roughead, said it was likely that some highly trained combat sailors, including Navy SEALs, might refuse to re-enlist in protest of the personnel change. But, he said, he did not think any long-term damage would occur if certain steps were taken, such as increased training, and he recommended repeal.

The Air Force chief of staff, Gen. Norton Schwartz, predicted the risk to his force would be moderate. He suggested, however, deferring any policy changes until 2012 so as not to place any "additional discretionary demands on our leadership cadres in Afghanistan at this particularly challenging time."

McCain has dismissed the military study as flawed because it did not ask troops whether they thought the law should be repealed in the first place, focusing instead on the impact repeal might have. McCain also contends that Pentagon leadership was glossing over serious objections expressed by troops in Marine and Army combat roles at a time of two wars.

Cartwright counters in his testimony that implementing change at a time of war might actually be preferable because troops are focused on their mission.

"The challenges associated with making a change of any kind that seem enormous during periods of inactivity become less distracting when you are defending your nation and comrades," he said.

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I am a retired Marine who had the good foutune to serve briefly with Grn. Pete Pace, He was right when he said homosexuality was immorral and that is still right today. And all this stupid talk about being able to accomplish this afer training. What kind of training (or brainwashing) would that be? If kids are being shown how to put condoms on cucumbers in public schools, heaven only knows what kind of "training" or "sensitivity sessions" this will lead to. Somehow I have a hard time seeing a Platoon Seargent standing on a footlocker explaining to gay marines... this is my rifle this is my gun this is for fighting this is for fun. God help us all and God Bless our service members.
December 3, 2010 | Unregistered Commentercdubbs
Roger that, Marine. Roger that.
December 4, 2010 | Registered CommenterMark "Snooper" Harvey
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