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Apr302010

Obama Confirmed Ineligible for Office?

Obama Confirmed Ineligible for Office? by JB Williams

Were ANY of the Founding Fathers “natural born citizens” of the United States?

No… they were not. Not even one of the Founding Fathers was a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, even though some of them had indeed been (native) born on what would become U.S. soil.

None of them were “natural born citizens” because all of the Founding Fathers were born prior to the existence of the United States of America. No one could be the “natural born citizen” of a nation that did not yet exist.

America declared its independent status as a sovereign nation on July 4, 1776, breaking away from England and British rule. But the United States of America was not formed until September of 1787, with the ratification of the U.S. Constitution. The Founders had no choice but to exempt themselves from Article II – Section I – Clause V of the Constitution they wrote and ratified. But there would be no other exemptions or exceptions from that moment forward.

So, how could any of them become President of the United States?

The Founders made this possible with this portion of Article II – Section I – Clause V; - “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution;”

They included a grandfather section in the clause pertaining to constitutional qualifications for the office of President, - A ONE-TIME exemption from the “natural born citizen” requirement for president.

They clearly separate themselves “citizens” from others who had to be “natural born citizens” in order to hold the office of president. Citizens, who were not “citizens” at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution, would forever after need to be “natural born citizens” to reside in the Oval Office.

Excluding citizens at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution, who shall be eligible for the office of president?

“No person except a natural born Citizen”

We know why they had no choice but to exempt themselves, but why did they exempt only themselves? What was so important about “natural born citizen” status that they made it possible for only a “natural born citizen” to hold the office of president after the adoption of the constitution?

What did the Founders mean by the term “natural born citizen?”

As with all written laws or contracts, they are a collection of carefully chosen written words of known specific meaning or definition. Any time you study documents, you must use definitions of words as they existed at the time the document was written, as words occasionally change definition over time. In the case of a document as important as the U.S. Constitution, it is vital that we have the proper meaning or definition of those words at the time of the writing and ratification of the document, in order to properly interpret the document.

I am using Webster’s 1828 First Edition Dictionary to define the written words, as it is the closest I have access to for the era 1776-1787.

The word BORN is defined by this dictionary as – “To be born, is to be produced or brought into life”

This word is simple enough and few people want to debate what the word means.

The word Citizen is defined by the 1828 Dictionary as – “The native of a city, or an inhabitant who enjoys the freedom and privileges of the city in which he resides; the freeman of a city, as distinguished from a foreigner, or one not entitled to its franchises.”

This word is also widely accepted and seldom debated. However, ONLY as it relates to the current resident of the White House, Barack Hussein Obama, there seems to be great confusion over the meaning of the word “natural,” as it relates to whether or not Barack Hussein Obama is constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States.

Yet the word NATURAL is no more complicated than the words born or citizen.

Clearly, due to the Founders grandfather clause, any “citizen” could hold the office of president at the time of the adoption of the constitution. But after that, “No person except a natural born Citizen” could hold the office of president, or vice president for that matter.

The word NATURAL is defined as follows, in the 1828 Webster’s dictionary – “Pertaining to nature; produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth, formation or motion impressed on bodies or beings by divine power. Thus we speak of the natural growth of animals or plants; the natural motion of a gravitating body; natural strength or disposition; the natural heat of the body; natural color; natural beauty. In this sense, natural is opposed to artificial or acquired.”

Natural (Pertaining to nature - In this sense, natural is opposed to artificial or acquired)

Born (To be born, is to be produced or brought into life)

Citizen (The native of a city, or an inhabitant who enjoys the freedom and privileges of the city in which he resides)

As these were likely the actual definitions in play at the time these words were drafted into the U.S. Constitution, this is most likely exactly what the Founding Fathers meant by these words.

In case you have the urge to challenge the 1828 definition of “natural,” the current definition of “natural” is essentially the same – “existing in or formed by nature (as opposed to artificial)”

As a quick aside, for those having trouble with Obama’s alleged birth place, it is only the term “NATIVE” which refers to place of birth.

Native – “Conferred by birth; as native rights and privilege - Pertaining to the place of birth; as native soil; native country; native graves - One born in any place is said to be a native of that place, whether country, city or town.”

Is Barack Hussein Obama a “Natural Born Citizen” of the United States?

Although NO authenticated evidence has been offered to support the claim, those who claim that Obama was born in Hawaii would be claiming only that Obama is a “native born citizen” of the United States. As “native born citizen” is NOT the requirement for president in the Constitution, this is an argument of no real consequence.

Being born in Hawaii would make Obama a “native born citizen,” but not necessarily a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

Even if we accept the notion that Obama was “native born” to Hawaii, which was a U.S. state at the time of Obama’s alleged birth in August 1961, we would only be accepting the notion that Obama is a “native born” citizen, not a “natural born citizen.”

If Article II – Section I said - “No person except a native born Citizen” shall hold the office of president, an authentic birth certificate from Hawaii would indeed solve the problem, although no such birth certificate has ever been offered by Obama. This terminology would have qualified some of the Founders as well, without the need for a grandfathered exemption.

However, “No person except a natural born Citizen” shall be eligible for the office of president.

As a result, a Hawaiian birth certificate would not be enough to qualify Barack Hussein Obama, II - as eligible for the office he currently holds. Something else would be required…something more.

Obama supporters shouldn’t feel unfairly singled out however, as without the grandfather clause, no Founding Father could have held the office of president either, and they were all white men. In fact, all white men would have to meet the exact same requirements as Obama today. Article II – Section I mentions nothing about color or race.

What is required to be a “natural born citizen?”

In a word, nature… as in, natural law, or as the 1828 Webster’s dictionary puts it – “Pertaining to nature; produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth, formation or motion impressed on bodies or beings by divine power.”

WOW! – “impressed on bodies or beings by divine power.” – “produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth”

In terms of “nature’s effect” on human beings, what we know is the reproductive system and time honored natural laws pertaining to “birthrights.”

Webster’s 1828 definition establishes birthright as – “Any right or privilege, to which a person is entitled by birth, such as an estate descendible by law to an heir, or civil liberty under a free constitution.”

Such as, a child inherits his/her father’s name automatically at birth, as well as heir to his fortune and his citizenship.

No man-made laws are needed. In every civilized nation on earth, the “natural born child” automatically inherits their father’s name and all other related birthrights upon birth, with no statute required.

If Barack Hussein Obama’s father had been a legal citizen of the U.S. at the time of Barack II birth, Barack II would enjoy not only his father’s name, but his citizenship in the United States as well, and no man-made law could block his birthright to status as a “natural born citizen” of the USA.

However, Obama’s father was at no time a citizen of the USA. He was at all known times in his life, a citizen of Kenya, which at the time was still under British rule.

Barack Hussein Obama II father was a legal citizen of Kenya. As the “natural born” son of Barack Hussein Obama I, Barack Obama II is the “natural born citizen” of Kenya, which is why his family, friends and the press referred to him as “Kenyan Born” all the way up until he decided to run for the office of president.

From that moment forward, Obama, his friends and the press has denied that he was a “natural born citizen” of Kenya, and claimed that he was a “natural born citizen” of Hawaii.

But here’s the problem – Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, a “native born” citizen of the United States (which has yet to be proven), he was still the “natural born citizen” of his father, and Kenya.

This would have made Barack Obama II a “dual citizen” of both the USA and Kenya.

And this is why the Natural Born Citizen clause exists in the U.S. Constitution.

Barack Hussein Obama is the poster-child for why the Founding Father’s placed Article II – Section I – Clause V in the U.S. Constitution.

Dual citizenship means dual or divided national loyalties. That’s why the qualification for the highest office in the land is “natural born citizen.” An individual with NO reason for dual or divided national loyalties…

It is on the basis of this research and further research into the history of the term “natural born citizen” – that I wrote The Bottom Line on Natural Born Citizen and make the claim that DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office.

American citizens had better wake up and take action fast, as there is little time left to right their ship!

Sources: You Tube - Canada Free Press - Canada Free Press

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The US-born founding fathers, such as Jefferson, believed that they were Natural Born Citizens since they were born in America. Jefferson in particular believed this because he sponsored a resolution at the Continental Congress to require US diplomats to be Natural Born Citizens, and then he became a US diplomat.

The reason for the grandfather clause in the presidential eligibility section of the Constitution was to allow men who had not been born in the USA but who were prominent leaders at the time to be eligible to become president. One such was Alexander Hamilton, who was born on the Caribbean island of Nevis.

May 6, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEllen

And that, "Ellen", is because you have never read Vattel's Law of Nations as our Founding Fathers did and wrote of it often. Get your facts straight before you even try and convince me otherwise. I have been studying this for decades upon decades upon decades and I am of the same opinion - no, fact - that Obama is NOT - and I repeat, NOT - a Natural Born American citizen because his Daddy was a National of England via Kenya and that makes him a mere citizen of this Nation and NOT a NATURAL BORN citizen. And THAT is in the USC. Read it sometime.

So by your reasoning a person who was a citizen at birth (like President Obama) would be a natural born citizen while someone who obtained their citizenship through artificial means (an act of law) would be a naturalized citizen. It's good to know that you agree with the interpretation of the supreme court. ;-)

May 6, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSlartibartfast

It is not my reasoning, Mr/Mrs/It. It si the United States Constitution and not what some f;floundering wannabe wants the USC to say. Period.

As for the SCOTUS, who are they to Make Law? I see your hatred of the USC is "Rather" tedious at best.

Mr. Harvey,

It's Dr. and the correct pronoun would be 'he'. The SCOTUS would be the body established by the Constitution to interpret the Constitution and determine if the laws made by Congress are consistent with the Constitution. The SCOTUS doesn't make law, but it does set precedent for interpreting the Constitution and they clearly interpret the Constitution (and specifically the 14th Amendment) to mean that anyone who is born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction of the US is a natural born citizen. This has been the prevailing interpretation for over 100 years. I'm not the one who hates the Constitution or is trying to twist what it says to fit my prejudices.

May 7, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSlartibartfast

And that's the "key phrase" that the Constitution does not allow...PRECEDENT.

Precedent Law and Case Law changes per Judical Asshat in Charge so don;t tell me it is precedent law that changes the USC. One must go by the Constitution, why it was written as it is. The only time the constitution can be changed is by Amendments and all the unconstitutional asshats in SCOTUS do is make law, unconstitutionally.

It is as simple as that. The Constitution is what it is and if anyone wants to know "what it says" as if it isn';t any plainer than written, read Madison's notes on Vattel's Law of Nations. The clue is this...Obama does NOT have TWO American Parent Citizens so therefore, as by the USC, is NOT a NATURAL BORN American Citizen, plain and simple.

Mr. Harvey,

In the words of Alexander Hamilton:

"The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts. A constitution, is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges, as a fundamental law. It therefore belongs to them to ascertain its meaning..."

The SCOTUS, acting in it's proper role, has determined that the Constitution (including the 14th Amendment) means that any child born on US soil and subject to the jurisdiction of the US is a natural born citizen. I'm not sure what rules you want to follow, but they aren't those laid down by the Constitution.

May 7, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSlartibartfast

And THAT is a problem. The 14th Amendment was for the Civil War. The Civil War is over. No one, back then, thought the 14th Amendment meant anything other than what it was meant for. Please. Stop relying on the idiots from SCOTUS and FDR. Judas H Priest.

Mr. Harvey,

There's a process for changing the Constitution which was followed to enact the 14th Amendment. You can argue that it should be changed, but it remains the law of the land until then. And under that law, President Obama is a natural born citizen. I have no idea what you're referring to with regard to FDR.

May 7, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSlartibartfast

The 14th Amendment changed the status of the slaves and that's it. The 14th Amendment doesn't change the entire constitution you twit. Judas H Priest you marxist-sociopaths are amazing.

About FDR, study some history that you folks haven't changed yet.

Doesn't Obama say he is FDR Junior? Please. Pay attention.

I think you need to read more carefully. And the whole point of making Amendments is to change the Constitution. (By the way, I'm thinking that getting the US out of the great depression, starting social security and winning world war II make FDR a great role model for President Obama and judging from the 290,000 jobs created last month (most in 4 years) he's a worthy successor - it was nice of you to compliment President Obama like that, though.) Below is the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Pay close attention to the first sentence.


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

I don't see anything that says it only applies to former slaves, do you?

May 7, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSlartibartfast
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