The Fools That Cannot Comprehend the Concept of Natural Born Citizen
Thu, December 17, 2015 at 20:10
Mark "Snooper" Harvey in NBC, Natural Born Citizen

This is pretty much my first blog post in several years and it is going to be quite lengthy.

What I would like to share is the fact that there are so many people that claim to be a Patriot but what they are a patriot of is in sore dispute.  One cannot claim that they are jihadis, muzzies, democrats, republicans or independents but from what I read of them, I know one thing…they are a form of troll…or an impostor…or something else.  Truth begets their infinite insanity.  Lies peek their interest because it is easier to accept a lie and live like fools.

On my Facebook page (click the link) one can see that a person calling themselves Tom Watson (no link available - odd that) and/or John Heinly (not sure if they are two separate people or one person posting as two persons - trolls do that); when one searches Facebook for one Tom Watson, many links arise, a sure fire way to detect trolls.

A friend of mine, JB Williams, has an infinite source of data, as I have and hopefully you do as well, and he talks about the Natural Born Citizen (NBC) and many trolls out there wish strongly to get a GOPer to gain the presidency when they are in fact not able to reach that platitude because they do not meet up with the criteria of the United States Constitution.  Seeing that the jihadi at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave of DC, one Barack Hussein Obama formerly Barry Soetoro (odd that he changed his name to a muzzie name), is in the office of the presidency, pretending to be an American president, these trolls try to “make a difference” in people’s attitudes. I for one cannot be changed from truth to a lie.

An NBC is not a citizen by birth nor is an NBC an NBC via “native born” birth.  An NBC is a man or woman with two each American citizen parents, whether naturalized or natural born.  Also, it is the father of a man or woman which dictates an NBC, period.  This is very easy to understand and comprehend if you aren’t trying to disallusion people away from the Law of the Land which is the United States Constitution…SCOTUS, Congress and the Presidency not withstanding.

Some, well most, of these trolls seem to think that if their is a “law” lying about that states that an NBC isn’t what the Constitution says it is or what “people” in the late 1700s and throughout the 1800s states what an NBC is, and these “laws” make the claim that if you are an American citizen, you are an NBC, so be it.  This is a contradiction to the United States Constitution and if there is a “law” which states something clearly contradicting said Constitution, that “law” is an illegal and unlawful “law”.  It is that simple.  Period.  End of discussion.

An NBC is in fact a True Citizen.  From JB WILLIAMS:

[…] People trying to disqualify John McCain in 2008 decided that natural and native are synonymous terms and people now trying to qualify Obama, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are claiming that natural, native and naturalized are all synonymous terms of art. Before they can eliminate the NBC requirement from Article II, they must first make the term ambiguous, potentially having more than one meaning… of course…

Any dictionary will disagree with these claims…

Naturalized – “to admit (a foreigner) to the citizenship of a country.”

Native – “being the place or environment in which a person was born.”

Natural – “existing in or formed by nature.”

Clearly, these three words have three very different definitions and meanings, only one of which is related to the Constitutional requirement for the Oval Office… “Natural.” […]

[…] The term natural born Citizen is based on historical concepts as old as all recorded time. If you want to know where and why the Founders borrowed the term for Article II, I cover that in this piece… and if you want to know the true historical definition of the term, I cover that in this piece.

Natural born Citizen is a term based in biblical teachings based upon the concepts of a patriarchal society wherein in the Father is the head of the family unit. The intentional destruction of the family unit has greatly complicated the discussion with scholarly changes in the definition of words like marriage, family and shifting gender roles forced by liberal restructuring of American society, also for political purposes. […]

[…] Setting politics aside for a moment, natural born Citizenship is the inalienable natural right of every child to inherit the country of their natural birth father upon birth, not only due to no application of man-made statute or legal opinions, but inalienable by these means.

When people begin to play with definitions, it is an overt effort to alter our Founding principles and values and Constitutional protections of all inalienable Natural Rights as guaranteed by our Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is a much larger issue than who can or cannot occupy the Oval Office, although this is indeed an issue paramount to the sovereignty and security of these United States.

Contrary to the intentional mis-education of American society, we do not enjoy “constitutional rights.” We have long enjoyed “constitutionally protected Natural Rights.”

Again from JB WILLIAMS:

[…] “It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising State make it necessary to frequently consult the Law of Nations.” […]

[…] The Founders reasoning for the Natural Born Citizen requirement in Article II is self-evident in the history of how it came to exist in our founding documents. In his letter to the Constitutional Convention, requesting the Natural Born Citizen be added as a requirement for high office under Article II, Jay explained his reasoning…

“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” – John Jay letter dated July 25, 1787 […]

[…] Close and complete examination of Chapter XIX Sections 212-220 will eliminate all doubts and questions concerning the true definition of natural born Citizen, aka True Citizen. Upon inspection of all related sections, we find that Vattel has a common thread throughout concerning the meaning of natural born Citizen, or True Citizen. The following excerpts represent that common thread in order of appearance… the common thread in bold for ease of identification purposes.

  1. “As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.” – Section 212
  2. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.” – Section 212
  3. “I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” – Section 212
  4. “These are a kind of citizens of an inferior order, and are united to the society without participating in all its advantages. Their children follow the condition of their fathers;” Section 213 pertaining to “inhabitants” or foreigners allowed by the state to settle and stay in the country. 
  5. “It is asked whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in several countries, and their regulations must be followed. (59) By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular,” - Section 215 pertaining to children of citizens born abroad, which refers back to Section 212.
  6. The natural, or original settlement, is that which we acquire by birth, in the place where our father has his;” – Section 218 pertaining to the settlements of naturals…
  7. “We have observed above (§ 212), that they have a right to enter into the society of which their fathers were members. But every man is born free; and the son of a citizen, when come to the years of discretion, may examine whether it be convenient for him to join the society for which he was destined by his birth.” – Section 220 again refers back to Section 212, when attaching the natural rights of an individual to the natural birth father as it pertains to the individual right to withdraw from society once of legal age.

As you can see, a complete study of how the Law of Nations addresses natural born Citizen, True Citizen, is consistent in attaching Natural Birth Right Citizenship to the natural birth father. […]

I, for one, have many articles on this subject at The Snooper Report and you wish to read them, feel free to do a search in the search engine for this web site.

JB Williams has many articles on this subject.  Vattel’s Law of Nations, as stated in Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution - and is in fact capitalized - means something - and when congress will not and/or does not adhere to the very document of which they all swore to defend and protect, we get oafs like Obama and GOP candidates that won’t adhere to it either because they know that Obama is unconstitutionally in the office he now aspires upon - as he makes holidays celebrating the cabal of which he is a member - the Islamic Caliphate…Satan’s henchmen.

Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal are not Natural Born Citizens and cannot occupy the White House but this doesn’t bother anyone because they are “nice people”.  Balderdash!  Ted Cruz was born to Canadian parents.  Marco Rubio was born to Cuban parents.  Bobby Jindal was born to Indian parents.  Were they born in this country?  Yes, they were.  They are American citizens but they are not Natural Born Citizens.  Period.  End of discussion.  They cannot occupy the presidency under the United States Constitution.  Period.  End of discussion.  Obama cannot either so what we have under Obama is treasonous tyranny and an impostor.  This is why he gets away with everything he is doing and We The People can do nothing about it because the American people are dumb.  They know nothing of our Founding Fathers or the United States Constitution, Vattel’s Law of Nations or Madison’s Notes on the Constitution.

As Obama stated some weeks ago, “Ordinary men and women are too Small-minded to govern their own affairs…” (see video below) ; therefore we get quacks like Tom Watson and John Heinly spreading their ineptness on Facebook with their icons revealing American flags…

Seeing that most will accept this inept jihadi’s word, most won’t know that in America, We The People are the Sovereign.  SCOTUS is not.  Congress is not (just don’t tell Nancy Pelosi or Harry the Crook Reid that).  The presidency is not.  We The People are the Sovereign of this nation because We The People, via the Constitution, tell our federal government what to do, when and where.  Period.  End of discussion.

I am not in favor of Donald Trump yet I will vote for him because he is not a lying politician, as Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and the rest of the fools are, trying to ascend to the presidency.  Donald Trump is stating what every True American is feeling as this country gives sway to the nincompoops on Facebook and in all of our useless education facilities and our putrid politicians that lie to get votes then do what they feel like doing, screwing We The People, the Sovereigns of the United States.


“He’s more concerned about the safety of Americans than offending people around the world.” Donald Trump Jr. on his father’s temporary halt of Muslim immigrants

Posted by Fox & Friends on Tuesday, December 8, 2015


Now the “Birthers” don’t have their acts together either and I have an article on that issue as well which can be read here.

Anyway, the inept mutants on Facebook need to be ignored.

Sic vis pacem para bellum
Fight Accordingly
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
(If you want peace, prepare for war.)
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Death to Tyrants

“Be still and know that I am God: …” Psalm 46:10

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